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Last Rite by Transformers-Mosaic Last Rite by Transformers-Mosaic
STORY:
MIKE “THUNDERWING” PRIEST [link]

ART:
KYLE HUDSON

COLORS & LETTERS:
MICHAEL J. “TRAMP” TRAMPERT [link]
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GuyverOmega Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2009
Its obvious to those familiar with the series Rhinox is talking about Dinobot but actually having a piece of Dinobot to bury would solidify the idea. Also it is not clear what he is doing with the machinery there nor as to why he is towing a hover skiff afterward when he could simply drive it back.
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breaker82 Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2009  Student
i just realized i saw this at the botcon! pretty cool!
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Neko-Gal28 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2009
Short and sweet. I love it. Though it did take me a moment to figure out what was going on until i recognized the recycling machine.
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TomSwiftie Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
i don't quite get this.
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fedupN Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
This was a bit harsh for Rhinox's normally mellow self, but i got it right away. Its not the tone but the word choice in "I never liked you, etc". It seems slightly too juvenille. Close but not quite verbose or smooth enough for Rhinox. The last panel is spot on in my opinion. Having Dinobots body on the first or last panel would have helped, since at this point its not cremated yet.

Minor Art critique, the hands in the second panel are off, but your facework is pretty dang good.
All in all not a bad mosaic.
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Tramp-Graphics Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009  Professional General Artist
Actualy, According to Kyle (the artist), this takes place after the cremation while Rhinox is putting everything away. So yes, Dinobot has already been cremated before panel one.
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fedupN Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
Ah! Now that makes the Mosaic clearer. I thought this was the setup of the pyre.
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:iconseiberwing:
Seiberwing Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
They could have done making that a bit clearer. I only figured out it had something to do with Dinobot's funeral from the text, the device just looks like a random widget.
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Tramp-Graphics Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009  Professional General Artist
Well, I just did the colors and letters. I haven't seen that episode so I don't know if that's how the actual device looked or not. It does look like some form of burner though.
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:iconseiberwing:
Seiberwing Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
...it does?
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Tramp-Graphics Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009  Professional General Artist
Yeah. You have the pan in which things burn, and the two fuel tanks, and pipes that connect the fuel to the burner pan. At least that's how I interpret it. Like I said though, Having not seen the episode, I can't say for sure how it works.
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Seiberwing Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2009
Admittedly I have not used that many burning devices that don't strike on the box, but it doesn't look much like the one in the episode.
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BoredRobot Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
I can totally hear Rhinox saying this. I always thought Rhinox was always kind of reserved around the other Maximals; I bet he thought a lot of things he didn't share. We know he was a very introspective kind of bot.

It also struck me that he and Dinobot weren't that close.
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StevenJarekk Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009   Writer
Not a big fan of Beast Wars...

but that was the Best Episiode ever. I really loved how they did it... Even if they did keep killing off the characters I liked.
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MikePriest83 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
As for people thinking this is kinda out of character...

I dunno, Rhinox always seemed to bust out a poetic/overblown line or two every so often.

"Comes the dawn..."

"When a spark comes online...etcetera..."

"For everything that ever was..."

He's a well-cultured bot and seemingly quite spiritual. And while he may not say this stuff around other bots, I felt he'd say it while he's by himself and wants to get something off his chest.

As for his feelings on Dinobot...can anyone think of a specific example where he was anything more than politely tolerant of Dinobot? Cuz I can't.
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Tramp-Graphics Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009  Professional General Artist
He's talking to himself. Well, technically, to the late Dinobot. One thing though, someone moved the title and credits after this was submitted. They were originally at the bottom. Someone altered the page. Not cool.
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quickblast Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
who was rhinox talking two? the snak?
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MikePriest83 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
I always played it in my head that Rhinox never really liked Dinobot (can you actually think of an instance when he was really and completely friendly with him? I can't.) and that was the basis for this script.

He's actually pretty harsh towards Dinobot most of the time. Lots of backhanded comments towards him.

"We're not Predacons here!"

"Giving him back the Golden Disk didn't help..."

etcetera...
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Seiberwing Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
Yeah, but everyone did that. Dinobot wasn't an easy guy to get along with.
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MikePriest83 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
I don't feel this would fit with any other character aside from perhaps Tigatron.

Primal, Cheetor, and Rattrap all actually liked Dinobot (even if Rattrap wouldn't admit it).

Silverbolt and Airazor didn't really know him well enough.

Tigatron could perhaps have a case for not liking him.

There's nothing to contradict that Rhinox would secretly feel this way towards Dinobot. There is, however, stuff to support it.
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Seiberwing Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
Not the lines themselves, the the way he talks. It's flat and lacks character, like a monotone in text.
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MikePriest83 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
How exactly does Rhinox talk then? How would you portray that?

Not every character has some speech quirk. Rhinox talks very plainly and to the point most of the time. But in certain situations he does say something flowery.
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Seiberwing Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2009
I can't really put it in words, it's just a tone thing. He doesn't have a quirk, but he has a voice.
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breaker82 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2009  Student
dammit wheres your sense of fun? its just a comic! with the mosiacs the writers and artists can do whatever they want.
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VenomX1 Featured By Owner May 3, 2009
While it'S true they can do whatever they want, Deviantart is not the place to get your ego boosted. It's a place to share comments and critics about the artists and the art posted weather they be written, drawn, pictured etc.

Maybe you don't realize it, but having only good comments doesn't really help the artist one bit. Bad reviews can actually help the writers and artist improve on their work. If someone wants to boost their ego, then they are not at the right place.
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Seiberwing Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2009
Ah, yes, the famed "it was just for fun so we don't have to put any actual effort into the writing or art" tactic, with a hint of "it's my comic I can do what I want". If you didn't want to deal with the possibility of criticism, possibly you shouldn't have submitted it in the first place.
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JZLobo Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah don't get me wrong, I can see where Rhinox implied mistrust/dislike of Dinobot. It's just something about the dialogue that doesn't seem like the way Rhinox would talk.

Don't get me wrong man, you've made a lot of great Mosaics. I just don't think this one was your best, in my humble opinion. The concept behind it was sound, the dialogue just didn't sound 100% like Rhinox.
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GRIMLOCKPRIME108 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
i get that the premise of this strip is based off an offhanded comment rhinox made to dinobot just before code of hero,but it stands way too out of character for rhinox
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xStarSaber Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Awww :heart:.
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dragonnetstorm Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
That is simply AWESOME! I did sometimes wonder how Rhinox reacted on that whole event, now its clear. But he did appreciate him a tad more in the series!!! Very very nice though! :)
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Blackvegetable Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2009
For a short comic, that's pretty deep!
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JZLobo Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah, the dialogue doesn't sound very in-character for Rhinox. And what is that thing he's fiddling around with?
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Seiberwing Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
Seconded. It's rather...bland, like you could swap Rhinox out for anyone else and it would sound the same.
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EvilMariobot Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
If some of the lines were retooled, I think it would work better with Rattrap.
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JZLobo Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah, Rhinox never really spoke so melodramatically like in that final panel there.
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LadyScourgE Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
My guess would be some sort of a memorial thingie to Dinobot...although I could be wrong.
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TeJi1789 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2009
If I am correct, that was the thing they used to vaporise Dinobot's body at his funeral in the episode "Code of Hero".
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JZLobo Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Way too small...
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ArtonRye Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
I agree with all these statements. As much as I love seeing another BW mosaic, this one is just not quite complete. I think art is pretty sound, not my favorite style but still good. It really could have been made better by maybe actually saying Dinobot's name. The only reason I get this mosaic is because I know the series really well. I guess TF fans are who the mosaics are for so they would know what this is about but I still think everything is so vague, and also really out of character for Rhinox. Rhinox post Tankor might admit something like that, but I think BW Rhinox would even never dream of admitting that-even in private to himself.
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JZLobo Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah, Rhinox got snide with Dinobot once or twice, but I don't think he would ever admit to flat-out disliking someone. Besides that, the dialogue just didn't use his "voice."
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breaker82 Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2009  Student
if the dialogue was tweaked a little this could work. perhaps this was the first step into becoming tankor
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JZLobo Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Oh don't even mention Beast Machines! -sprinkles holy water around the room-
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VenomX1 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
I didn't understand this comic till I read the comments ... and I watched BW religiously. All the time I was reading the comic I thought he was talking about that piece of machienery behind him.
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NuclearConvoy Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2009
It feels a bit too short and simple for such a seemingly deep concept.
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